tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34605776.post7304464474723705900..comments2023-11-02T17:57:18.602+08:00Comments on Truth be known: ဘ၀င္မက်တာေလးgeneration96http://www.blogger.com/profile/04817289457167951376noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34605776.post-66675483623615824542007-09-11T04:12:00.000+08:002007-09-11T04:12:00.000+08:00I disagree and I think you have gone too far criti...I disagree and I think you have gone too far critisizing that guy.<BR/>First of all, in 8888 no one except<BR/>the armed forces have guns and bullets only came out of gunes. So his claim was not excessive at all. Afterall, I have seen a 10 years old kid in lower Pazondaung township who was hit by a strayed bullet bounced back after hitting the Nylon coated road, that kid was sleeping inside his room, on his bed and he was hit by a bullet shot from the soldiers of his own country. Had the army officers commanded according to the rules of engagement, then they have to use loud speakers, warning shoots above the crowd, then sharp shooting the leaders but apparently our own soldiers were not ordered to shoot that way, they might have fire at will and a strayed bullet and a broken dream.<BR/>So that was a fact. If you visited Rangoon Hospital then you might seen yourself that there are more and more corpses; some drowned, some cut down by bullets and those dead bodies came on the trawlers of jeeps. I saw it with my own eyes.<BR/><BR/>About 31st street, JinGaLi attacks to city hall, that could be true too.<BR/>I was a straight laced, easy going, grade A+ student, but during that time, we guarded our neighbourhoods armed with sticks and JinGaLis. On the 8th August 1988 evening, there were truck loads of soliders from Light Infantry Division 22 based in Tha Htone and I even talked to one captain. Until that day, we put high hopes on our soldiers and officers but they shot at us, upon their superiors' orders, that could be true that soldiers from Navy were replaced because they may not shoot protesters. But you are right that there is no single ethnic battalions or regiments (old formation of battalions) as all become mixed and mingled. So I think that chap was right. Again, even if there were Chin soldiers who shot Burman protesters, we Burmese will never blame on Chin or any other ethnic betherens as as soldiers they are there to obey order. It is officers who has to have brains where to shoot and whom to shoot. While top officers, i.e. generals are using the army as if they inherit from their step father, that is the root cause. My parents told me that Chin solders might have do shoting in U Thant uprising but I never lost inspiration for Chin soldiers. If a soldier thinks twice to shoot when the order come then it is not a well trained soldier anymore, but officers must have brains, they have to think and they have to know what to fight and where to point the guns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34605776.post-20462431371491902002007-09-11T04:08:00.000+08:002007-09-11T04:08:00.000+08:00I disagree and I think you have gone too far criti...I disagree and I think you have gone too far critisizing that guy.<BR/>First of all, in 8888 no one except<BR/>the armed forces have guns and bullets only came out of gunes. So his claim was not excessive at all. Afterall, I have seen a 10 years old kid in lower Pazondaung township who was hit by a stray bullet bounced back after hitting the Nylon coated road, that kid was sleeping inside his room, on his bed and he was hit by a bullet shot from the soldiers of his own country. Had the army officers commanded according to the rules of engagement, then they have to use loud speakers, warning shoots above the crowd, then sharp shooting the leaders but apparently our own soldiers were ordered to shoot that way, a strayed bullet and a broken dream.<BR/>So that was a fact. If you visited Rangoon Hospital then you might seen yourself that there are more and more corpses; some drawned, some cut down by bullets and those dead bodies came on the trawlers of jeeps. I saw it with own eyes.<BR/><BR/>31st street, Jin Ga Li attacks to city hall, that could be true too.<BR/>I was a straight laced, teacher fearing, easy going, grade A+ student, but during that time, we guard our places and we are armed with sticks and Jin Ga Lis. On the 8th August 1988 evening, there were truck loads of soliders from Light Infantry Division 22 based in Tha Htone and I even talked to one captain. Until that day, we had put high hopes on our soldiers and officers but they shot at us, upon their orders, that could be true that the soldiers from Navy were replaced because they may not shoot protesters. But you are right that there is not pure ethnic battalions or regiments (old battalions) as all become mixed and mingled. So I think that chap was right. Again, even if there were Chin soldiers who shot Burman protesters, we Burmese will never blame on Chin or any other ethnic betherens as as soldiers they are there to obey order. It is officers who has to have brains where to shoot and whom to shoot. While top officers, i.e. generals are using the army as if they inherit from their step father, that is the root cause. My parents told me that Chin solders might have do shoting in U Thant uprising but I never lost inspiration for Chin soldiers. If a soldier think twice to shoot when the order come then it is not a well trained soldier anymore, but officers must have brains, they have to think and they have to know what to fight and where to point the guns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34605776.post-40570744466561111512007-08-24T23:02:00.000+08:002007-08-24T23:02:00.000+08:00ကိုရန္ေအာင္က သေဘာရိုးနဲ ့ေရးတယ္ထင္ပါတယ္။ စာဖတ္ေကာင...ကိုရန္ေအာင္က သေဘာရိုးနဲ ့ေရးတယ္ထင္ပါတယ္။ စာဖတ္ေကာင္းေအာင္၊ ရသ ပါေအာင္ေတာ့ နည္းနည္း ေၿပာင္းေရးခ်င္ေရးပါလိမ့္မယ္။ ေနာက္ ကိုဂ်န္၉၆ ရဲ ့ ထင္ၿမင့္မွဳ က နည္းနည္း ပိုစိုးရိမ္ေနလားလို ့.. ။ ဥပမာ (တကယ္ၿဖစ္ခဲ့တယ္ဆိုရင္) စစ္တပ္ရဲ ့သတိေပးစကားကို ေက်ာင္းသားေတြၿပန္ေအာ္တာ.. ေလွာင္တာပါပဲ.. ဘာၿဖစ္ရဦးမွာလည္း.. မထီဘူးဆိုတဲ့သေဘာပါ။<BR/><BR/>"သတိေပးစကားကို ေလွာင္တယ္ဆိုေတာ့ ပစ္မယ့္ စစ္သားေတြကို သြားရန္စ သလို ျဖစ္ေနတယ္လို႔ message ပါျပန္တယ္။"<BR/><BR/>ဆိုတဲ့.. ယူဆခ်က္က မဆိုင္တာကို ဆြဲေတြးမိသြားသလိုပဲ။ ရန္စတာမဟုတ္ဘူး.. ဒါေပမယ္.. ထီမထင္တာ.. ေလွာင္တာေတာ့ အမွန္ပဲၿဖစ္လိမ့္မယ္။ အဲဒါမလုပ္လည္း ပစ္မွာပါပဲ.. အထက္က အမိန္ ့နဲ ့လာခဲတာမလား။<BR/><BR/>ဂ်င္ကလိပစ္ၿခင္းစတဲ့ အေပၚစာပိုဒ္ေတြကေတာ့.. ဖတ္ေကာင္းေအာင္ နည္းနည္း ပါလိမ့္ပါမယ္။<BR/><BR/>"ေက်ာင္းသားေက်ာင္းသူမ်ား ခင္ဗ်ာ. လူစုခဲြဖုိ႔ သတိေပးပါတယ္. မခဲြရင္ ပစ္ပါမယ္.<BR/>အဲဒီ႔စကားကုိ အခ်ိန္ျခားျပီး ေၾကျငာပါတယ္. ေၾကျငာသူကေတာ႔ ဘယ္သူလုိ႔မ်ား ထင္ပါသလဲ..<BR/>သာသနာေရး၀န္ၾကီးအျဖစ္ ေနာက္ပုိင္းမွာ ခန္႔အပ္ခံခဲ႔ရသူ ဗုိလ္ခ်ဳပ္မ်ိဳးညႊန္႔ပါပဲ."<BR/><BR/>ဒီစာကားကို ကိုဂ်န္၉၆ စဥ္းစားတာကို သေဘာက်တယ္။ကိုရန္ေအာင္အေနနဲ ့ရိုးရိုးေရးတာၿဖစ္နိုင္ေပမယ့္ ဖတ္တဲ့ လူေတြ က ကိုဂ်န္၉၆ ေၿပာသလို ့ ထင္ၿမင္သြားႏိုင္တဲ့ အေရးအသားပါ။ (ကိုရန္ေအာင္က ဗုိလ္ခ်ဳပ္မ်ိဳးညႊန္႔ လို ့ဆိုခ်င္တာဟာ ေနာင္ န၀တ စစ္ဗိိုလ္ၾကီးၿဖစ္လာတဲ့လူက ဒီလို ေအာ္ခဲ့တယ္ဆိုတဲ့ ရည္းညြန္းခ်က္ကိုေပးခ်င္တာလည္း ၿဖစ္ႏုိင္ပါတယ္)<BR/><BR/>ကြန္မန္ ့ထဲ က ကိုရန္ေအာင္ရဲ ့<BR/><BR/>"ကၽြန္ေတာ္ကုိယ္ေတြ႔ၾကဳံခဲ႔ရတာကုိပဲ အပုိအလုိမရွိေရးထားပါတယ္." ကိုေတာ့ မယံုပါဘူး။<BR/><BR/>"ကၽြန္ေတာ္လူၾကိဳက္မ်ားေအာင္ မေရးတတ္ပါဘူး. ဘ၀င္က်ေအာင္လည္း စကားလုံးေတြကုိ သတိထားမေရးတတ္ပါဘူး."<BR/><BR/>ဒါကေတာ့.. မၿဖစ္သင့္ပါဘူး.. မွန္တယ္ဆိုရင္( မွန္တယ္လို ့လက္ခံရင္) သတိထားရပါမယ္။ မထားတက္ဘူး. .မေရးတက္ဘူးလို ့ကိုရန္ေအာင္လို လူမ်ိဳးက မေၿပာသင့္ပါ။<BR/><BR/>ကိုဂ်န္၉၆ရဲ ့<BR/>"ကိုရန္ေအာင္ တေနရာက ကူးထားတာဆိုရင္ ျပန္စဥ္းစားေစခ်င္ပါတယ္။"<BR/>ဆိုတာက.. အင္း.. (ရိုးရိုးသားသားေၿပာတယ္ဆိုရင္ေတာင္) စဥ္းစားၾကည့္ေစခ်င္ပါတယ္။<BR/><BR/><BR/>coolGenerationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34605776.post-19149009317702253622007-08-20T09:50:00.000+08:002007-08-20T09:50:00.000+08:00ကိုရန္ေအာင္၊ ေမာင္ေဒါင္း..ကိုရန္ေအာင္ ပိုစ့္ေတြ အမ...ကိုရန္ေအာင္၊ ေမာင္ေဒါင္း..<BR/>ကိုရန္ေအာင္ ပိုစ့္ေတြ အမ်ားႀကီးေရးၿပီး ဘေလာ့ဂါေတြကို အမ်ားႀကီးကူညီထားတယ္ဆိုတာ က်ေနာ္သိပါတယ္။ အဲဒီအတြက္ ေလးစားပါတယ္။ <BR/>က်ေနာ္ျမင္တာ၊ ျဖစ္သင့္တယ္ ထင္တာ ေျပာၿပီးပါၿပီ။ ပိုစ့္ကို ျဖဳတ္တာ မျဖဳတ္တာ ကိုရန္ေအာင့္ ကိုယ္ပိုင္လြတ္လပ္ခြင့္ပါ။ ဒီပိုစ့္ကို ဖတ္ၿပီးရင္ ဒီဟာေတြေတာ့ စဥ္းစားသင့္တယ္ဆိုတာ က်ေနာ့္ အျမင္ပါ။ လက္ခံမႈ၊ လက္မခံမႈက စာဖတ္သူနဲ႔ ဆိုင္ပါတယ္။ <BR/><BR/>ကိုရန္ေအာင့္ ရွင္းလင္းခ်က္အတြက္ ေက်းဇူးတင္ပါတယ္။ သို႔ေသာ္ က်ေနာ္ လက္မခံပါဘူး။ က်ေနာ့္အတြက္ လက္ခံႏိုင္ေလာက္တဲ့ အေျဖေတြ မပါပါဘူး။ လြတ္လပ္စြာ သေဘာ ကဲြလဲြၾကတာေပါ့ဗ်ာ။generation96https://www.blogger.com/profile/04817289457167951376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34605776.post-2023587143935618432007-08-18T11:47:00.000+08:002007-08-18T11:47:00.000+08:00ေတြ႔ဆံုေဆြးေႏြးညွိႏိႈင္းၾကမယ္ေနာ္.. ဟုတ္လားကိုရန္က...ေတြ႔ဆံုေဆြးေႏြးညွိႏိႈင္းၾကမယ္ေနာ္.. ဟုတ္လား<BR/>ကိုရန္ကို ကိုဂ်န္ဆီ ေခၚလာခဲ့ဘီ.. ဟဲဟဲ<BR/><BR/>ကိုရန္ကေတာ့ သေဘာရိုးနဲ႔ ေရးပံုရပါတယ္ ကိုဂ်န္ေရ..က်ေနာ္ မွတ္မိသေလာက္ကေတာ့ က်ေနာ့္အေမကလဲ အဲတုန္းက က်ေနာ့္ကို ေသနတ္မွန္မွာစိုးလို႔ အိမ္ေပၚမတက္ခိုင္းဘူးဗ်.. သမိုင္း မွန္မမွန္ အဲတုန္းက ျမိဳ႔ေတာ္ခန္းမနားမွာ ေနတဲ့သူေတြကို ေမးၾကည့္မွ သိမယ္ထင္တယ္ဗ်။Ka Daung Nyin Tharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12458494899508573088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34605776.post-61525283192458835712007-08-17T18:08:00.000+08:002007-08-17T18:08:00.000+08:00ခုလုိမ်ိဳး ဘ၀င္မက်တာေလးကုိ မက်သလုိ ျပန္ျပီး ေ၀ဖန္ေ...ခုလုိမ်ိဳး ဘ၀င္မက်တာေလးကုိ မက်သလုိ ျပန္ျပီး ေ၀ဖန္ေထာက္ျပေပးတာ ေက်းဇူးတင္ပါတယ္ခင္ဗ်ာ.<BR/><BR/>ကၽြန္ေတာ္ကုိယ္ေတြ႔ၾကဳံခဲ႔ရတာကုိပဲ အပုိအလုိမရွိေရးထားပါတယ္. တကယ္လည္း အဲဒီ႔လုိပဲ ကုတင္ေအာက္မွာ အိပ္ခဲ႔ရပါတယ္. လူတုိင္း အိပ္မအိပ္ ကၽြန္ေတာ္မသိပါဘူး. ဒါေပမယ္႔ ကၽြန္ေတာ္တုိ႔ အိပ္ခဲ႔ရပါတယ္. ေနာက္ေဖးကေန တုိက္တန္းလ်ားကုိ ေက်ာ္ျပီး ပစ္လုိ႔မရပါဘူး. ဒါေပမယ္႔ ပစ္ပါတယ္. က်ည္ဆန္သံေတြလည္း တရႊီးရႊီးနဲ႔ပါ.<BR/><BR/>လူစုခဲြဖုိ႔ေၾကျငာတာကုိ ျပန္ေလွာင္တယ္ဆုိတဲ႔ သေဘာပါသြားရင္ေတာ႔ ကၽြန္ေတာ္မေျပာတတ္ပါဘူး. မီးသတ္ကားေတြနဲ႔ ေဆးသလုိ အပုပ္နံ႔လႈိင္တာကလည္း လႈိင္တာပါပဲ.<BR/><BR/>ကၽြန္ေတာ္လုပ္ေပးႏိုင္တာ ႏွစ္ခု ရွိပါတယ္.<BR/><BR/>၁. အားလုံးေျပလည္ေအာင္ ျပန္ျပင္ေရးေပးဖုိ႔<BR/>၂. ပုိ႔စ္ကုိ ျဖဳတ္ပစ္ဖုိ႔<BR/><BR/>၁. ကေတာ႔ မျဖစ္ႏုိင္ပါဘူး. ကၽြန္ေတာ္လူၾကိဳက္မ်ားေအာင္ မေရးတတ္ပါဘူး. ဘ၀င္က်ေအာင္လည္း စကားလုံးေတြကုိ သတိထားမေရးတတ္ပါဘူး. အဲဒီ႔တုန္းက ျဖစ္ရပ္ကုိ အဲလုိပဲ ျပန္ေရးေပးပါတယ္. ဒါဟာ ၀တၳဳလည္း မဟုတ္ပါဘူး. ျဖစ္ရပ္မွန္ပါ. လူမ်ိဳးေရးမုန္းတီးမႈလည္း ကၽြန္ေတာ္႔မွာ မရွိပါဘူး. ကၽြန္ေတာ္တင္ျပသြားတာက စစ္အာဏာရွင္ေတြရဲ႔ လူမ်ိဳးစုအခ်င္းခ်င္းၾကား ေလးစားမႈ မရွိပုံကုိ ေျပာသြားတာပါ. <BR/><BR/>ဘာပဲျဖစ္ျဖစ္ပါေလ. အေၾကာင္းမဲ႔ရန္ေတြ႔တတ္တဲ႔ ေကာ္မန္႔ေတြနဲ႔စာရင္ အခုလုိ ပညာသားပါပါနဲ႔ ေဆြးေႏြးထားတဲ႔ အစ္ကုိ႔ရဲ႔ သေဘာထားကုိ ကၽြန္ေတာ္ေလးစားပါတယ္. <BR/><BR/>ကၽြန္ေတာ္လည္း ပုိ႔စ္ေတြ အမ်ားၾကီးေရးခဲ႔ျပီးပါျပီ. ကၽြန္ေတာ္ဘယ္လုိလူဆုိတာကုိ အလုပ္နဲ႔ပဲ သက္ေသျပပါတယ္. အစ္ကုိမၾကိဳက္ရင္ ကၽြန္ေတာ္႔ပုိ႔စ္ကုိ ျပန္ျဖဳတ္ေပးပါမယ္ခင္ဗ်ာ…<BR/><BR/>ခင္မင္ေလးစားလ်က္<BR/><BR/>ရန္ေအာင္Yanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00055599387267366684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34605776.post-10565279741229362632007-08-16T11:06:00.000+08:002007-08-16T11:06:00.000+08:00I agree about some of your different opinions, app...I agree about some of your different opinions, appreciate for your courage of saying.WanderFishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06552168009237499835noreply@blogger.com